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Deutsche Fuels Silver - Keith Weiner

Deutsche Fuels Silver - Keith Weiner
By Keith Weiner 2 years ago 1577 Views No comments

October 3, 2016

Last week, it was the Fed’s magic boosting up the price of silver. This week, the slow slide in the silver price resumed, going all week except during peak fear about the woes of Deutsche Bank. When it looked bleakest—and the potential size of the capital-eating fines was highest—there was a wicked little rally in the metals, spiking silver up from below $19.10 to $19.70 in a few hours. However, the price reversed just as fast, on news of a settlement with the US Department of Justice.

Folks, what do we know about the price of the monetary metals? But if we had a thought, it would be that when the real run on a major too-big-to-fail bank occurs, the primary flight will be into the dollar, with some capital flows into gold. There will be a rising gold-silver ratio. Not a good time to bet on silver.

In any case, that does not appear to be happening just yet, or at least not the week of Sep 26.

In yet another variant of irony, our running inside joke-slash-point bears repeating for a third week in a row:

Just repeat after me: “the Fed makes the economy more stable.”

A major money center bank is in the throes of, well, the throes of something serious.

As always, the central question to be answered in this Report is simple. Is this a change in the fundamentals of supply and demand? Read on for the only true picture of the fundamentals of the monetary metals. But first, here’s the graph of the metals’ prices.

The Prices of Gold and Silver

Next, this is a graph of the gold price measured in silver, otherwise known as the gold to silver ratio. It was up this week.

The Ratio of the Gold Price to the Silver Price

For each metal, we will look at a graph of the basis and cobasis overlaid with the price of the dollar in terms of the respective metal. It will make it easier to provide brief commentary. The dollar will be represented in green, the basis in blue and cobasis in red.

Here is the gold graph.

The Gold Basis and Cobasis and the Dollar Price

Well, the price of gold is down some twenty one bucks (seen as a small rise in the green line, which is the price of the dollar as measured in gold). With that, we see a small rise in the scarcity (red line).

The fundamental price that we calculate—the price at which the metal would clear, absent the leveraged speculators—is down $12, now below $1,300.

Now let’s look at silver.

The Silver Basis and Cobasis and the Dollar Price

The price of silver fell greater than gold, in proportion. There was a slight increase in scarcity at the new price. But not a lot.

We calculate a fundamental price drop of 58 cents, to just above $16.

Yes, the fundamentals call for a price $3.30 below the market price. This does not mean to go out and short silver (we never recommend naked shorting a monetary metal). It does not mean that the price of silver will drop immediately in the morning. If a rumor of crisis at Deutsche could cause the price to spike 60 cents last week, then it could cause it again this week. If traders have simple heuristics of what to buy and what to sell (the silver price chart looks a bit like the inverse of the Deutsche share price chart), then that will not likely change so quickly.

One thing’s for sure, silver is a lousy bet at this price with these fundamentals. Buying silver right now—at least if you’re buying it on speculation of a price gain—is almost the textbook definition of a Ponzi scheme. Previous buyers will only get their capital out if new buyers come along and bid up the price even more. But the only certainty is that one day, they won’t.


Keith Weiner is CEO of Monetary Metals, a precious metals fund company in Scottsdale, Arizona. He is a leading authority in the areas of gold, money, and credit and has made important contributions to the development of trading techniques founded upon the analysis of bid-ask spreads. He is founder of DiamondWare, a software company sold to Nortel in 2008, and he currently serves as president of the Gold Standard Institute USA.

Weiner attended university at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, and earned his PhD at the New Austrian School of Economics. He blogs about gold and the dollar, and his articles appear on Zero Hedge, Kitco, and other leading sites. As a leading authority and advocate for rational monetary policy, he has appeared on financial television, The Peter Schiff Show and as a speaker at FreedomFest. He lives with his wife near Phoenix, Arizona.


The author is not affiliated with, endorsed or sponsored by Sprott Money Ltd. The views and opinions expressed in this material are those of the author or guest speaker, are subject to change and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of Sprott Money Ltd. Sprott Money does not guarantee the accuracy, completeness, timeliness and reliability of the information or any results from its use.

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